Cayucos Citizens Advisory Council Minutes March 5, 2008 Vet’s Hall

Meeting called to order by President Ed Carnegie –7:02pm [approx. 50 in public attendance]

Present: Arley Robinson, John Carsel, Carol Baptiste (Alt), Ed Carnegie, MaryAnn Carnegie, Bill Shea (Alt), Harry Wiese, Lynn Schoennauer, Roland Hutchinson, Dirk Langer, Margaret Ambrosavage, DeAnne Harland, Marie Jaqua, Greg Bettencourt, Larry Fishman, Frank Otis, Clay Selkirk (Alt) Absent, Chris Pope [ne]

Minutes 02/06/08 approve: R. Hutchinson; 2^nd L. Fishman passed with unanimous verbal approval

Treasurer’s Report: beginning & ending balance: $1,109.73

ANNOUNCEMENTS:

•usual agendas, correspondence rec’d all on file to view during break

Public Comments: use the microphone, state name, and resident of ---- 3 minute time limit

•Dirk Langer- thanked all for the energy, input & democracy in action; items bring wake up calls & gets people involved

•DeAnne Harland-check out the new Cayucos history book; can get at the pharmacy store

•Connie Paine wanted to know about letters concerning Del Mar Project—point clarified that as an agenda item it would be taken care of

Public Agencies:

County Sheriff Commander Ben Hall-department received 127 service calls/33 reports taken; mostly alcohol related [last year of 145 service calls and 33 reports]. Re: missing person D. Autrey, a reverse 911 all were alerted via phone canvassing.

CHP/ State Parks/Cayucos Sanitary Dist. -- no representatives present

County Planning-Kerry Brown: announced upcoming

• Advisory Councils annual workshop-April 19 re: process and planning.

• County is working on fiscal year annual reporting; long range planning and that growth management draft is coming up for review in April with BOS Mtg. May 13

• two- OPEN HOUSES are scheduled 3/6/ and 3/08/08 @ Paso Robles-City Hall; and then 3/08 and 3/13 @ Arroyo Grande to discuss conservation element-Ryan Hostetler Planner for workshops

• Estero Area Plan... Update hopefully with the Coastal Commission for a hearing soon

• Stenerson Project[Ocean Ave]-still on HOLD with a correction notice; public commented that there seems to be workers always there; also noted that there is no Performance BOND on the project

County Public Works-Doug Bird: was thanked for dept.’s posting of No Overnight RV Camping/parking sign throughout the community; announced that Nola is doing well with her 2 month old daughter-she will be back in April; working for the utilities division water treatment plant for CSA10A/Cayucos Discussed: recent will serve letters were sent out to act upon two issues: [1] remove water shortage policy[2] thus adopt new policy for water rules—BOS to act on 4/1; so that will serves will be served upon request in CSA 10A; allows owners of vacant lots to apply for will serves: every yr. Department does a water evaluation to determine capability to build. Public then inquired if CCAC has a position on this and it was noted that a committee worked with Public Works long and hard on this –Ultimately was decided since there were enough Questions-maybe place on agenda sometime soon.

Cayucos Chamber of Commerce-Bill Shea- will have an ALL GIRLS Surf contest hosted by Good Clean Fun 3/08; next CC monthly meeting 3/19 5:30PM Vet’s Annex Rm.; 3/22 Dog Madness Parade; May Madness tickets on sale at shoreline/Stimmel Tax Service/Sea shanty

Supervisor Gibson:

· Resolution for Cass House/Bagnalls—not present so Carnegies will just drop it off at Cass House

· Appreciation for D. Langer comments in that controversy usually hooks people to act

· Closing of Parks: 7 of the 11 parks are in SLO and in Dist. 2. Feels this is a betrayal of public trust/lands—response is to express outrage via writing letters—contact office for addresses. County does not close parks—state does—question is once closed who protects public safety?

· Estero Area Plan-Hopefully will be reviewed again this summer last submitted 2007-held up by LO-removed that part so maybe will move ahead... Coastal Commission is actually running out of time to review

· County Budget-constantly being ask to do more with less and now with real estate market at a low, there is a greater burden. Have an 18million dollar gap, reserves help.

Cayucos Elementary School Board Members arrived for a non-scheduled presentation to a captive audience [allowed 10 minutes]—George Erdelyi Superintendent ''opportunity simple in complexity" might be able to add 3 Classrooms that wasn’t on voted bond, with this, the entire school will all be new; it is a tight Window of opportunity, a future public town-hall type meeting will be announced; will need to start on project next month and will be done with funds that weren’t part of the bond; will go into reserves & will build them back up eventually, but won’t impact students. Will add approx. 3,000sq. ft at $1.5 million. Have 175-185 students; not adding classrooms, just removing temporary trailers.

- Motion: [M. Jaqua] to move items b. Del Mar Project under Old Business under Land Use Committee Reports. [ 2^{nd R.} L. Fishmann] carried unanimously via verbal vote^..

COMMITTEE REPORTS:

Del Mar Project: prior to proceeding President Carnegie ask if any have conflict to let it be known—Council Member A. Robinson stepped down and alternate Carol Baptiste became a voting member for this issue. Update from Monday’s Land Use Mtg. given comparing new design, mitigations, qualitative vs. quantitative standards; where the project started, where it is now. No recommendation was obtained to send forward from the LUC due to the number of people reacting at the Monday Mtg. and inability to investigate, interpret, and move in any direction. Item turned over to applicant’s architect, Kim Hatch to continue with presentation of changes, etc. Visual Impact report from an outside 3^rd party review, request for a planned development for mixed use; tried to modify for possible view corridors—looking at other nearby lots—don’t align and several views are already blocked. Project has become compacted, pushed back, opened up the corner, horizontal: vertical lines; 2 exits required from basement so would have to redesign everything again. Market studies indicate viability of such a project; then open to questions from the public which took a little over an hour. Concerns against project: fire dept; # of signatures on petition against; massiveness, footprint; insignificant changes; articulation is minimal; shading of neighbor’s solar panels; it’s an elephant; doesn’t follow Estero Area Plan; not sensitive to small scale; parking doesn’t belong; decrease of property values; reduce actions to purchase property; lack of public water; parking hole will fill with water; time shares aren’t Cayucos; extra deliveries impact neighborhood; what about perimeter parking; views will be destroyed; traffic and visibility; maybe put up poles/fencing and leave up for a few weeks to show height, size, etc. better; do a full EIR for cumulative impacts; 38% of 68 items need mitigating; hazardous waste/MTBE’s; occupancy rate of hotel; wall for everyone on the backside; large size of hotel rooms; won’t see sunsets anymore; water allotment is too much for one project; encroachment with Old Creek Rd; any public benefit? Work on reducing room size for marketing better for higher occupancy rate; too close to neighborhood vacation rentals already existing; more surface level parking would be better; doesn’t follow Coastal Commission strategy on growth, policies, will be appealable to the Coastal Commission; possible sewer backup for higher usage; a new lateral will be needed; just a bad corner, not compatible; too large; we are people you are to serve—how can you ignore us? Some spoke in favor: it is 18 lots, if one apt. it could be 54 units, has always been commercial retail, reasonable use of the property, follows land use guidelines; will be a significant change, but a big improvement from what exists; everyone should look and plan for the future when buying their property. Property will have a manager on call 24/7, sidewalks will provide an improvement; curbs will improve directed drainage; not a big developer but a local family.

break 9:50-9:55PM

Council discussed items brought up. Dirk Langer spoke as CCC member and said CCAC is a true representation voice of the people; then made a motion:

Motion:[D. Langer], and 2^nd [M.Ambrosavage], to ask the council to vote on rescinding its previous vote of the former project [i.e. the 2nd revision]. [8 ayes to rescind and 6 nayes].

Additional discussion ensued by the council members: many felt much confliction re: revised plans, applicant worked with the community; would like to make more of a resolution perhaps to recognize the vehement of the work done on the project; many more would have spoke out in favor but felt intimidated and somewhat afraid based on past treatments received when speaking out; lots of merit in what has been said on the project, a few new council members on board now; Planning Commission and BOS will have ultimate decision; should vote on what is right; it is a better project now; Dirk said that without the 3^rd floor CCC would POSSIBLY support the project; some felt CCAC was at an impasse therefore just let it go through the process; Greg said it is the responsibility for the CCAC to take a stance—if we don’t feel comfortable because of the size/massiveness—substitive change, therefore get major concerns out in the open.

Another motion was then made [G. Bettencourt] that a letter be sent that the Council would not support the project, as presented, because of its massiveness, and because of its being out of character with the neighborhood and town. However, if the issue of massiveness was addressed [for example, by removing the 3^rd floor] the council would support the project. [2^nd J. Carsel]

Further discussion then ensued on criteria to evaluate qualitative vs. quantitative designs, and because of the applicant and architect’s willingness to work with the community, and from the concerns brought forth, the following amendment to the motion was made (F. Otis): The applicant was willing to work with the community, and has met all building code requirements and quantitative standards. [2^nd M. Jaqua] [carried 8 ayes; 6 nayes] [Motion, as amended then carried 13 ayes, 1 naye]

Committee Reports [Continued.]

Land Use: since major attendance at committee meeting was for Del Mar Project—any discussion/actions on other projects was hindered and thus those projects will be discussed in further detail with additional information as was requested & hopefully received. Projects include: Tibbitts on Pacific MUP demo with swimming/lap pool—wall heights, pool concerns/fencing, walls, insurance; drainage. Davis: LLA—all seemed in order for making two parcels out of three for multi residential zoning, legal size lots still, entrance for both; provides for better improvements

No other reports due to the late hour from

Public Safety: Recreational: Utilities/CSA10:Ad Hoc-Sidewalk Committee: Ad-Hoc Traffic Study Committee:By-Laws—[Arley] new approved by-laws with required signatures will be distributed to council when copied

OLD BUSINESS—all items completely taken care of in various reported items above.

B. Discussion of Surveying Monuments: a handout, with photos, explaining the need for such markers was distributed. It is hoped to propose the establishment of benchmarks for all surveyors to use as consistent reference points/system in order to measure heights in a consistent way; based on GIS. Will again be on next month’s agenda as Old Business. Please read the short one page document and be familiar. This will help shorten discussion. Call if you have questions.

New Business: None

Good of the Order:

Adjournment: 10:35PM.

Respectfully Submitted:

Mary Ann Carnegie Date:

Acting Secretary

Motion to Approve:- Seconded: `