Cayucos Citizens Advisory Council Minutes January 9, 2008 Vet’s Hall

Meeting called to order by President Ed Carnegie –7:10pm [approx. 38 in public attendance]

Present: Arley Robinson, John Carsel, Carol Baptiste (Alt), Ed Carnegie, MaryAnn Carnegie, Bill Shea (Alt), Harry Wiese, Lynn Schoennauer, Roland Hutchinson, Dirk Langer, Margaret Ambrosavage, DeAnne Harland,, Marie Jaqua, Greg Bettencourt, Chris Pope, Larry Fishman, Frank Otis,—

Absent, Mike Hargett [ne], Terry Moore [ne], Clay Selkirk [e]

Minutes 12/06/07 minutes approve: L. Schoeonnauer2^ndH. Wiese passed with unanimous verbal approval

Treasurer’s Report: balance: $1,184.73 – rent expenses Jan-Mar/$75./mo =ending balance $1,109.73;

ANNOUNCEMENTS:

•usual agendas, correspondence rec’d is on file for all to view during break

•Events Ordinance still under public comments/meetings; a letter from Ag. Tourism rec’d on its revision

•Mobile Park Conversion hearing 1/10/08 Planning Commission hearing [tomorrow]

Council Chairs Meeting-Jan. 11, 2008—will bring up absolute vs. relative heights/bench marks/consistent monuments; to discuss annual formulation guides for CAC’s as passed by BOS.

•No Overnight parking/ passed at BOS Mtg.-applicable to Cayucos per previous CCAC Mtg. discussion

•Since Co. Planner, Kerry Brown, out sick she phoned in an update on Ocean Ave. building project [Stenerson Project]--there is an issue of compliance and the project appears to be over height by 3 inches; county planning and client will be discussing further for resolution annd to bring project into compliance. County Planner Murray Wilson is trying to establish a benchmark for permanency; this will be done by a licensed surveyor.

Public Comments: use the microphone, state name, and resident of ---- 3 minute time limit

• Larry Fishman/Cayucos: Chair of Lions Scholarship Committee—Lions/Lioness hosting a fundraiser, Sun. 2/17 [4-7PM], serving wines, cheeses/appetizers @ $25/person for the good of local students.

Public Agencies:

County Sheriff Commander Ben Hall-department received 135 service calls/30 reports taken; some with narcotic task force and an attempted theft of a construction trailer. Inquiry by council member re: commencing work/meetings on July 4^th organization. This year 7/4 falls on a Friday—will try to keep the same enforcement as last year, as many improvements have been observed in the event.

California Hwy.Patrol/ State Parks/Cayucos Sanitary Dist./County Planning and County Public Works-- no representatives present

Community member Bruce Paine was recognized from the public; asked with no Co. Planning rep. present and thought the Ocean Ave.[Stenerson Project] would be on the agenda for clarification/discussion. It was re-explained that this was brought out under announcements—see above.

Cayucos Chamber of Commerce-Bill Shea- new members will be welcomed at next meeting-Chamber meets third Wed. of each month 5:30PM/Vets Hall; approx. 150 people participated in the Polar Bear Dip

Supervisor Gibson:

· Dec. 16 BOS passed the overnight parking ordinance & requested speed limits in Cayucos

· BOS recently approved the money transfer to take six antiquated subdivision properties as tax default

· Proposed Advisory Council Guidelines have been approved

· Reiterated the policy of staff participation at all council meetings—meetings should end as close to 10PM as possible; excuse staff by 8:30/9:0PM; staff’s time at meetings is given as comp-time during the week. Management says staff needs to get home earlier unless extraordinary circumstances are present. [Supervisor Gibson’s [home management] would like him home by 9:30-10PM]

· As a member on the Integrated Waste Mgmt. Authority the county has an ordinance authority re: the disposal of batteries/fluorescent tubes—which is illegal if just tossed—need to provide means of disposal—if you sell them-then provide disposal site—question asked by public—will there be a charge to return them for disposal? Supervisor Gibson will look into this

COMMITTEE REPORTS:

Land Use: -yearly committee schedule had been distributed to all council members for CCAC Mtgs. and LUC; noted that LUC will usually meet the Mon. prior to CCAC Mtg. but items discussed at that mtg. will generally NOT be agenda items on the following Wed. unless discussed the prior month. Allows more time for obtaining requested information, last minute questions, concerns before bringing back to CCAC. No objections seemed to discussed. Committee Referrals discussed: Smirl Project on 2680 Studio—basement/side setbacks/massiveness/articulation with rear structure remaining and in bluff setback—MOTION: [L. Fishman] Request to bring the project back to the full council for review, discussion when revised plans and concerns have been addressed. [2^nd-L. Schoennauer] Approved via a verbal vote taken no objections voiced.

Regarding Dielman Project on 640 Park Ave. requesting LLA and lot de-consolidation. MOTION: [J. Carsel] Request to bring the project back to the full council for review, & discussion when more research has been found out on actual available allocations/precedence, legality [2^nd-L. Schoennauer].. Approved via verbal vote taken; no audible objections heard.

Public Safety: questioning of vehicle abandonment and how it is enforced—CHP vs. county; again the issue of street sweeping after the storms and debris all over—per past meetings, eventually sweeping will be back on a cycle. Supervisor Gibson had asked that a list of specific areas be forwarded to him

No reports from : Recreational/Utilities/CSA10

Ad Hoc-Sidewalk Committee-working with businesses; will meet with the Chamber Commerce in Jan./Feb.

Ad-Hoc Traffic Study Committee—will be getting together now after the holidays

By-Laws—final revised edition was handed out; some discussion; Motion [L. Schoennauer]to accept as presented. 2^n[M.[M. Carnegie].. Approved via voice vote taken; no audible objections heard.

break 8:15-8:250PM

OLD BUSINESS

A. Community concern regarding porches/decks—enclosed or not . Concern brought about mainly by past projects and the current Hunt Project [J. McAlpin architect] on Cass St. requesting an enclosed porch. Architects Jon McAlpin and John MacDonald were present to bring up concerns within the community and architecturally. Discussion ensued: on smaller lots i.e. 1500-1600 sq. ft. in SSN where for example the largest and upper floor could be 600 sq. ft. Is the intent of the guidelines of the SSN being met or hindered? This does not appear to be an opportunity for allowing the massing of buildings, but helping out architecturally, and better usage of area.. Likewise would seem to not penalize, would provide better interpretation for all [i.e. architects, applicants, planning staff/any plan checkers/community land use committees], would attempt to close possible current loopholes, due to individual interpretation, and seems to provide a reasonable compromise.

Motion: [L. Schoennauer] to recommend and thereby allow for a better interpretation on the definition of decks/porches in SSN. Porches/decks are to NOT be enclosed, to be opened on three [3] sides, to either be limited to 100 sq. ft., or to not be more than 10% of the second floor—whichever is the lesser of the two. 2^nd[J. Carsel]. Roll call vote taken—unanimous [14 ayes Zero nayes]

New Business:

A formal resolution had been received from the Board of Supervisors, but since the Bagnalls were unable to attend tonight’s meeting the resolution will be presented at next month’s meeting.

Good of the Order: could the class meeting prior to CCAC end sooner than 6:45PM? This would allow more time to setup, meet and discuss with possible public agencies/representatives coming to the meeting. Now with asking to have staff dismissed by 8:30-9PM pre-meeting discussions would be helpful and encorageed.. Mr. Robinson to look into this. Also, discussion of formation of seating the council—let’s try U-shape with no one’s back to the doors next time and see if this may be better.

Adjournment: 9:50PM.

Respectfully Submitted:

Mary Ann Carnegie Date:

Acting Secretary

Motion to Approve:- Seconded: