Cayucos Citizens Advisory Council Minutes April 2, 2008 Vet’s Hall

Meeting called to order by President Ed Carnegie –7:00pm [approx. 25 in public attendance]

Present: Arley Robinson, John Carsel, Carol Baptiste (Alt), Ed Carnegie, MaryAnn Carnegie, Bill Shea (Alt), Harry Wiese, Lynn Schoennauer, Roland Hutchinson, Dirk Langer, Margaret Ambrosavage, DeAnne Harland, Marie Jaqua, Greg Bettencourt, Chris Pope, Larry Fishman, Frank Otis, Clay Selkirk (Alt) Absent none]

Minutes 03/05/08 approve with correction of over height 1’1/4” not 11.25 ft. on Stenerson Project.: R. Hutchinson; 2^nd D. Langer verbal approval unanimous

Treasurer’s Report: ending balance: $1,034.73: expenditures for rent to Lions $75 for April-June

ANNOUNCEMENTS:

•Clearer explanation given on motion to rescind from last month—was actually out of place, a mute point in that rescind vote was on prior project, not current one, & per Robert’s Rules a vote may be rescinded by a majority vote, provided notice of the motion was given at the previous meeting [which didn’t occur]; or rescinded without notice, by 2/3’s vote, or by a vote of a majority of the entire Council membership

•At public hearings—when the President/chair of the Council is present they speak for the council; if not there, the President/Chair usually designates someone to speak on behalf of the council.

•Usual agendas, correspondence rec’d all on file to view during break

•Pete Jenny, County Parks Dept. would like input on what might be done to assist with keeping parks open. To be discussed next month as an agenda item

•March 111 Smart Growth Ordinance is to be continued; April 16 EIR re: Open Space Element-contact James Caruso to explain in greater detail when the EIR actually becomes available.

Public Comments: use the microphone, state name, and resident of ---- 3 minute time limit

•Paul Birmingham/Cayucos-wanted additional clarification re: rescind vote as presented before Planning Commissioners

•Judy Apple/Morro Bay- Article 10/bylaws Robert’s Rules-on rescind-cannot undo something if action taken; and questioned conflict of interest with Council Member Dirk Langer as c o-facilitator and signing letter of opposition to the Planning Dept. for the Del Mar Project. Thought Mr. Langer should have stepped down

•Bill Shea/Cayucos-why if 80-90% do not want the Del Mar Project does the council continually vote for the project?

•Margaret Ambrosavage/Cayucos-expressed a lack of clarity on the motion

•Connie Paine/Cayucos-better representation by precinct representatives should occur

Public Agencies:

County Sheriff Commander Ben Hall-department received 122 service calls/26 reports taken [last year 173 service calls and 33 reports]. This month mostly re: thefts. Questions posed to the Commander: any graffiti report right away; per Chamber of Cayucos—have some funds to paint and help remove right away—either on personal homes or with businesses; July 4^th committee should begin to organize work with law enforcement agebncies again

CHP/ State Parks/Cayucos Sanitary Dist./Co. Public Works -- no representatives present

County Planning-Kerry Brown:

• Advisory Councils annual workshop-April 19; no current update for Sternerson Project on Ocean—has 6 months from last inspection to act..

• Estero Area Plan... Update hopefully with the Coastal Commission for a hearing in SLO in July

•With July 4 approaching, and no one from Public Works present, it was asked if Kerry could get a message to have more signs of no overnight parking placed around the park areas in Cayucos

Cayucos Chamber of Commerce-Bill Shea- CC’s website is being updated, a newsletter was distributed, announced upcoming street faire; donations being received for July 4^th fireworks, vote for honorary mayor of Cayucos—4 candidates

Supervisor Gibson: {Cherie Aispuro, Legislative Assistant spoke in the absence of Supervisor Gibson}

• Brief update on Sup. Gibson’s recovery from heart surgery and coming back to the office already

• Update of meetings with State Parks Nick Franco and county Parks Pete Jenny re: 10% budget cuts in conjunction with recent meeting with the gov. of Calif. ; some flexibility options are still there, need to continue to write letters

COMMITTEE REPORTS:

Land Use Committee-met 3/31/08; projects: Tibbitts on 1210 Pacific; Kellogg; Bright on Richard and Corella which is scheduled for a hearing on April 18. Most projects still had many unanswered questions/concerns so additional information was being requested, except for Corella.

Public Safety: sign near Cayucos Dr torn down, possible cam-corder placed on the hillside to deter; Megan’s Law accessed—1 listed in Cayucos; wanted to thank local jeweler for cigarette butt containers; Motion:[D. Harland] to write a thank you note to the responsible party/local jeweler for the donated containers; 2^nd [G. Bettencourt]. Carried via voice vote. Discussion-DeAnn and Dirk are to draft a letter and send to Presidentr to place on CCAC letterhead.

Recreational: Pete Jenny to talk next month on park closures, etc.; possibility of an off-leash site at Norma Rose Park as well—suggested to contact people in Paso Robles to see what arrangements they’ve done to make this type of park. Carol Kramer of Cayucos was also suggested as she has some knowledge; also suggested to be sure to touch base with Cayucos/Morro Bay Cemetery personnel regarding this.

Utilities// By-Laws—no reporst given

CSA10A Doug Bird will give update next month

Community Design: committee met with County personnel Dave Flynn/Mike Brighten to find out in-lieu fees don’t usually work, parking assessment districts needs the endorsement of public and needs to pass by 2/3’s vote in community; a business improvement district per Jim Lopes has some funds via grants; will come back next month with a more detailed report

Ad Hoc-Sidewalk Committee: Dirk Langer and DeAnne walked the business area and said the reality of obstructions and design is difficult. Also met with the Chamber and would like to roll issue back into safety committee and to work with the Chamber. The committee would not be dissolved until the assigned task for the committee would be completed—i.e. a report with actual conclusions/findings

Ad-Hoc Traffic Study Committee-considered some traffic calming ideas in downtown area; needs to better define means and actual concerns; areas of specific concern/problems; possible low cost techniques, non-invasive means. More information needs to be gathered first before presenting ideas and options as a full package.

OLD BUSINESS—.

1. Discussion of Surveying Monuments: a handout, with photos, explaining the need for such markers was distributed. It is hoped to propose the establishment of monuments for all surveyors to use as consistent reference points/system in order to measure heights from a cohesive baseline vs. a possible arbitrary reference point that differs from house to house thereby making it difficult to compare from one lot to another. Seems more logical to refer back to a known monument height.; Discussion was to ask about drawbacks: Motion: {G. Bettencourt} to ask county Planner Kerry Brown to go back to the Planning Dept. to gather additional information and in order to site pros and cons of using consistent surveying monuments. 2^nd[L. Fishman] Motion tabled until further information would be brought forth—Voice vote carried unanimously. Break 8:03-8:13PM

2. BASEMENTS: presentation of recent concerns as related to various projects within Cayucos was heard; the handout was left at home with the points of interest/concern but would be emailed to all and sent to all via snail mail if they had no email address. Additional concerns: do basements jeopardize neighboring properties; how or is there unnecessary pumping of ground water; how do they affect GSA/esp in SSN[small scale neighborhood]; how are they best defined; are they inconsistent with the current standards; do they provide a means to take advantage as a loophole in SSN; do they affect the intensity of development; where does grade come in; does it affect density; what is the cumulative affect; what are preventative measures; visual appearances vs. usage of space; corridors remain or are they eliminated; is there a minimal sq. footage required for an egress to be present—need to check with Dept. of Planning on this item. Motion: {L. Schoennauer} table any further discussion of item until more information is obtained, email/handout reviewed more by council members 2^nd {H/. Wiese}—Voice vote carried unanimously.

New Business:

A. sign up sheet went around to confirm CCAC members that would be attending the April 19 Dept. of Plannning Workshop for all advisory councils and their members to attend

Good of the Order: D. Langer wished to express that he felt consituients were not properly represented, that is why he got on the council and as a Concerned Citizen Meber he has a right to voice opinions and impressions as well. Thus did not see his signature on the letter of opposition from CCC or voting on Del Mar Project on CCAC agenda as a conflict of interest.

Adjournment: 8:50PM.

Respectfully Submitted:

Mary Ann Carnegie Date:

Acting Secretary

Motion to Approve:- Seconded: `